Quote from niall09 :

...Also, you have never tried to learn it, so you can't really make an opinion on it...

Are you serious? How did you come to that conclusion? Everyone who went to school when I did, before we became a... multi-cultural country, had to learn it. So don't go making assumptions when you don't even know the person. Anyway, I'm Irish, so of course I can have an opinion on our language, whether I can speak it or not...

Quote from niall09 :

...Irish(stupid language)...

Wha!? I can't speak it myself but I wish I could and I certainly wouldn't call it a stupid language. I can't believe you think it's a stupid language...

Quote from dcm_wc :

Hi guys , please answer my last 2 questions . How to do the setting with Adobe Premiere Pro for best quality video? How to make the sound like replay 1x speed ? the 0.25x speed and record with fraps..the sound very terible.even i make it fast like 1x speed..the sound still teribble.Please answer.Last 2 questions.

Well, I don't use Adobe either but when I record at 0.250 speed, then put it into Sony Vegas, I have to change it to x4 speed to make the recorded footage play at normal speed. When you record at .250, that's quarter the normal speed and to get it to play normal you have to make it 4 times faster.

Me neither, looks nice though. I thought Porsche concept aswell, but that was wrong so had a look through a few pages of concepts on google images and gave up.

Quote from nitrox1935 :

nice lay-out ther, like it to

but sometime's it make's me bannersick after a while

Yeah, well it's better that the red/white barriers, imo.

Hmmm.... I take it you have a different account that is S2 licensed? I hope you do...

Quote from fretan :

oh my i got no words! it's so frigging perfect! thanks alot

No problem man, glad you like it.

I gave it a go. This is the first layout I tried to make for someone. It looked like a good track so I thought I'd try it. It's not exactly like the picture but close enough. I didn't use the red/white barriers for obvious reasons. I used LYTe to make this layout. Great program btw RayOK!

I also added a figure 8 near the pits just for fun, see attached screenshot. If you don't like it you can always remove it.

Last edited by U4IK ST8, Wed 29 Aug 2007, 15:40. Reason : minor adjustments to layout

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Was what I was gonna post, but I think it'd look tacky.

But thinking about it, not too different from F1, how sometimes they do the same thing when comparing splits.

Yeah, it would be tacky lookin' if it was exactly like the B&J, but if it was not as big and it didn't use the LFS ingame names, I think it would look good. Using the same colours and system already used for the race positions on the left.

I just had an idea reading these last couple of posts. Would it be possible to use something similar to the Bump&Jump servers. Whatever driver you are following on screen, at the bottom you would be able to see who is behind and who is ahead. Maybe not using their full LFS ingame name like in B&J but just using the 3 letter abbreviations.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Guess this one then

Wth? Looks like some sort of APC(Armored Personnel Carrier) to me, lol.

Edit: Ah, I give up, there's no chance anyone will find this. The only way someone will get it is if they seen it somewhere before. There's no hint of year or anything in the pic so....

Last edited by U4IK ST8, Tue 28 Aug 2007, 19:10.

Excellent broadcast!:clapclap:

Great racing too.

Can't wait to see these new features in action, they sound great.

Once again, great work Becky!

Looking forward to Round 10, should be interesting racing.

Ah I see, just finished the download now.:munching_

Downloading now.:hyper:

I thought the same, did I miss Round 8?

Moskvich 403 or 407?

Quote from BlueFlame :

Global Warming causes more problems than its ever existance.
E.G

Trees make O2 for us giving them CO2. We aparently make too much of it. Ok then.... Ethanol is a better fuel than Crude Oils... ok, where do we find it? We find it on plains that have been created by deforestation because people want to plant crops for Ethanol in 3rd world countries. ANYONE who things Global Warming is a problem, needs to be shot, i am not being fed anything. nobody needed/s to tell me that it doesn't Exist, i thought it before it was publically mentioned. As for GW, everyone that 'believes' in it, had to be TOLD it, they didn't think about it, before it was 'fashion'. so just SIT down.

You GW people, are the kinda people to believe in Evolution, if you knowed SH** you would know we evolved from Sea creatures... More Sea, more Sealife.... A rise in Sea levels just means we will end up living in Scotland, whoopdie ****ing do, we are living in the best and most well preserved country in the world!, it was only 10.000 years ago there was a glacier here!. You GW people have so many theories that you have been fed, they all contridict each other. The worlds climate changes, all the time. Global warming was just thought up by one guy who doesn't like cars. And we are sitting here on a RaceSim forum, debating on how we should kill motoring? Eventually some people agreed with this man, now its Propaganda for Companies. Everyone brags they save energy like Vauxhall (oh, we have cut down on our Ellesmere Port Factory Energy savings) YOU CAN'T SEE THAT? YOU CAN'T SEE, THAT people are making MINCE meat of you. Yet you get angry at us smart ones, us people who don't need to be told what to do, or what to believe, before we do it.

I agree 100%. I was going to use some of your colourful language but people switch off when someone gets abusive when they are explaining stuff to them. So, try keep a lid on it and get this across in the right way. Most people may not listen but those who are not easily suggestible will eventually see through this global warming scam...

Quote from Nobo :

The degree of temperature change we experience at the moment is NOT natural (speaking we have no extraordinary events for example, big volcano eruptions, meteroitic impact...) and can hardly be found in earth history without those extraordinary events.

But do these graphs not show a cycle of natural events in our Earths atmosphere? Obviously caused by something other than humans.

Quote from Nobo :

Whats the problem and the result if we get higher temperature?

Just some of a long list of examples:
Rise of the ocean
less glacier
higher temperature
more extreme weather phenomens
desertification

I agree that these are effects of global warming but judging by these graphs it is not entirely caused by humans, which we are led to believe. We are just at the peak of one of these cycles.

Quote from Nobo :

In countries which are affected by those things you will probably have high migration (in humans history always led to wars, cultural, racist conflicts) or the agricultural sector will have big problems and more and more people will not have something to eat at the end of the day.
Finally those effects that will cost us more if we dont do anything to slow down the degree of global warming.

We will have all of these events happen in the countries which are effected by global warming but I doubt that anything humans do will stop or even slow down the effects of global warming.

Quote from Nobo :

But the main thing is not of we have global warming (everyone can see it at the glaciers in the alps) or not. The question is what will be the effects if we get a high temperature change over a short period. People should just start learning out of humans history.

I agree, people should start to learn about the history and not just take what the major media puts out as truth...

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

Right here we go its a british buit car, if you go to snetterton race circuit you'll find that its actually built on the circuit grounds, ive seen a couple in person and they are the the best looking cars, ive even had a chat to the designers and builders in their garage who had seemed to have lost the plot lol



You dont want to see the front

It's either a Kamala RT or Kamala Futuro, I've used the Futuro as a car here already, hehe. Anyway it's not your turn.

I just had a quick glance through WGI and WGIII summaries and what I saw wasn't very convincing, I have to say. The time span they looked at in WGI is very small compared to the time span of records which are available. And in WGIII - Of course there would be more carbon in the atmosphere from the industrial age but there's still no conclusive evidence that this is what's causing global warming.

Also, when I opened WGI full report I immediatley was disappointed to see the heading - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I realise now that that's what IPCC stands for but didn't hear of this before.

After looking through these I decided to look for some graphs of Earths temperatures and carbon dioxide levels over a larger time span. Wiki is where I started and these are some graphs I found -
*Today is on the left*









Ok, I am obviously no scientist and I have no qualifications in this field but it is clear to me, from some of these graphs, that the Earths temperature has been higher and glacial ice volumes have been lower than they are today. Obviously the carbon level is higher because of the industrial age but the temperatures and glacial ice volumes don't seem, to me anyway, much different compared to previous times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology

Quote from Funnycat :

yess

Well I have to be honest here. Warszawa

Quote from Wikipedia :

Named after the city of Warsaw, the Warszawa was identical to the Soviet Pobeda, built under license.

This is the only reason I found it so I think Tonix should go.

GAZ M20 Pobeda?

Quote from Shotglass :

i havent seen either one firing insults at anyone who criticizes them yet ... much less at anyone with reasonable criticism

You haven't seen doesn't mean it hasn't happened...

Quote from Shotglass :

which quite clearly claims that we have no effect on gw showing that you completely fail to understand the science behind it

Well, to you we are the single cause, of course we have some effect on the planet but not to the extent that we are led to believe...

Quote from Shotglass :

implying that hes ignoring the effects entirely

I can't understand how me asking for info on what his take on sun spots and sun cycles is, implies he is ignoring these effects...

Quote from Shotglass :

tyvm i do see that very clearly
however unlike you i am in touch with the scientific community and know that the entire point of science is to be agenda free

So, if it is agenda free, why are there some vastly different views, in the scientific community, on this topic? It is obvious some people are trying to push a certain agenda, otherwise we would see just as much of both sides of this topic on public display, but we don't.

Quote from wien :

Now that I can believe. I take anything coming out of there with mountains of salt. That does not mean, however, that I think the White House would purposely make themselves look bad on 60 minutes to promote some giant global warming conspiracy. Just just plain crazy talk. The simplest explanation is most often the correct one, and that one sure as hell ain't it.

I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

I guess we will.

Quote from Shotglass :

obviously durkin is a very reasonable fellow who can be trusted with everything he said

The same could be said for the White House and NASA...

Quote from Shotglass :

ah yes its all a big conspiracy
like anyone else comming up with conspiracy theories you give the distinct impression that you dont even begin to understand the science behind the matter youre trying to debate

Of course I can understand what I am "trying to debate" or I wouldn't be here having this debate. You may or may not be more intelligent than I but that doesn't mean you are more learned on this specific issue.

Quote from Shotglass :

what does that have to do with anything ?
more importantly whats the point of saying something as preposterous as that
you claim that he thinks the sun has no effect on us just because he points out that we are having an effect on out climate ?

id love to live in that crazy little happy place of yours where everything is either black or white

Where did I say that I think he thinks the sun has no effect on us? I merely asked you to show me where he states that the sun spots or sun cycle effects our planet.

I can assure you I do not live in a "crazy little happy place" because I can see what the major heads of state and corporations are trying to push on us. Maybe you will someday, maybe not...

Quote from Shotglass :

venus

I think, just like wien, we will just have to agree to disagree because you obviously think you are superior in knowledge and will never change your views.

Quote from wien :

Never be available (for an interview). And no, not Hansen. The lawyer at the White House editing Hansen's press-releases. If that's the White House agenda, they're doing a damn fine job of covering it up. The US government is the one most critical of GW in the entire world. (But I guess that's just what they want us to believe, right?)

Here, I think you dropped this:

Listen, you need to wake up, just because the White House says something doesn't mean they are doing it. I could, if I could be bothered to look for you since you don't want to find out for yourself, go find 100's of things that the White House have said and actually done or said the opposite previously. So don't always count on them to be honest, no matter who the president is.

Yeah it's easy to call people who actually look to an alternative for information crazy but hey, you will soon find out the truth.

Quote from Shotglass :

i did but unlike you i looked further into their sources
any programme that misrepresents its interviewees this much is tosh ... imple as that

even channel 4 openly admits that it was pure polemics and not a documentary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T ... e#Carl_Wunsch_controversy

There's 2 sides to every story -

Quote from Filmmaker Durkin :

"Carl Wunsch was most certainly not 'duped' into appearing in the film, as is perfectly clear from our correspondence with him. Nor are his comments taken out of context. His interview, as used in the programme, perfectly accurately represents what he said."

...taken from that link.

Quote from Shotglass :

that hes been working in the field for several decades now ... a whole bunch of that time funded by universities ie independent from any lobbies

That still doesn't take away from the fact that he can be used to get an agenda onto TV. Ok, show me where he explains that sun spots and sun cycles have no effect on our atmosphere and no effect on planet temps because I would like to see what he thinks of that.

Quote from Shotglass :

i wont even begin to point out how stupid that statement is

Come on enlighten me.

Last edited by U4IK ST8, Thu 23 Aug 2007, 15:58.

Quote from wien :

Ehm. They said right there in the clip they tried to get an interview, but that he would "never be available". (Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's part of cover up of the big GW conspiracy too. :rolleyes

Who would never be able? Hansen? He doesn't need to be interviewed on TV to say what he wants, I just put a link in a previous comment to a video he's in where he talks about what he believes and there's no NASA censoring anywhere. But it is sponsored by this roundtable on climate change "group". So that's more b.s. right there...

Quote from wien :

But let me get this straight. James Hansen is lying about being censored by the White House, he went to 60 minutes with this lie, the tops at CBS thought "that'll help our cause, so let's put him on", the CBS then lies about the talking to the White House and makes up a story instead, and they do all this without the White House going public to debunk their reportage. Yep, that's the most likely scenario.

Ehm, the White House would be the main one behind the push for this global warming issue, just like every other government. So they would never step in and try to debunk anything. They are pushing this agenda and using Hansen to go on TV and say that NASA are consoring what he's trying to publish...

He doesn't look a enough possibilities to the global warming issue, only carbon emissions or human affects. Nowhere do I see him mention sun cycles or sun spots effecting the atmosphere and that's just one point he doesn't look at, which has a great effect on our atmosphere and planet temperatures.